<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638</id><updated>2011-06-07T23:42:32.713-07:00</updated><title type='text'>After Progress</title><subtitle type='html'>a dialogue on religion, culture, philosophy, art and politics from a Christian worldview</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://afterprogress.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11363638/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://afterprogress.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>J. Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>59</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-113833118466342461</id><published>2006-01-26T18:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-01-26T19:06:24.676-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Some Thoughts on Orthodoxy</title><content type='html'>The Times has an interesting &lt;a href= "http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/26/international/europe/26pope.html"&gt; article &lt;/a&gt; on the new Pope's first encyclical.  The article lauds Benedict for his emphasis upon love, but in the midst of its praise demonstrates an interesting bias against religious faith.  It labels orthodoxy as "divisive" and later highlights the fact that the encyclical does not mention such issues as abortion, homosexuality, contraception or divorce.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two thoughts come immediately to mind.  The first is that while the issues mentioned by the article certainly fall under the purview of Catholic teaching, they do not constitute the heart of Christian thought.  They represent the fringes of Christian thought; they are the areas where many Christians take a stand and where they come into sharp conflict with the world around them.  But they are not the heart of Christianity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second thought is that if we consider the heart of Christianity, or what we might call orthodoxy, we should realize that it is not a burden that was ever meant to divide.  The title of the Pope's encyclical, in fact, demonstrates this point.  God is love.  That short phrase captures deep theological truths and points to the heart of orthodoxy.  God exists.  He loves.  And what greater love is there than that a man (especially Jesus) might lay down his life for his friends?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That, to me, is a breath of fresh air.  And it is the air of orthodoxy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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&lt;/script&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/11363638-113028181444194020?l=afterprogress.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://afterprogress.blogspot.com/feeds/113028181444194020/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11363638&amp;postID=113028181444194020&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11363638/posts/default/113028181444194020'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11363638/posts/default/113028181444194020'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://afterprogress.blogspot.com/2005/10/spin-doctors-on-iraq.html' title='Spin Doctors on Iraq?'/><author><name>J. Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-112961674381907114</id><published>2005-10-17T22:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-10-17T23:25:43.826-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Meditations on a Marathon</title><content type='html'>"On this system one could fight all the forces of existence without deserting the flag of existence. One could be at peace with the universe and yet be at war with the world."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;G.K. Chesterton&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A dear friend of mine ran a marathon this past weekend.  It was my first opportunity to watch any part of a marathon in person, and I was unsure as to what I should expect.  I'm glad to say that I loved it.  The freedom to support and cheer everyone on, both strangers and friends, was exhilarating.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It struck me that the reason why people are so quick to cheer the runners on is because we are, for the most part, simply impressed with the daring to attempt such a daunting task.  We recognize that the marathon represents the peak of training, and that all of the runners have paid a price for entering the race.  By the time they cross the starting line, they have already committed time, energy, and finances to the task ahead.  And we respect them for that.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, at the same time, the unwavering support received by the runners is combined with a stark knowledge of how they stack up against their competitors.  For the vast majority of the runners, in fact, the race is not competitive in any meaningful way.  But, because the runners have earned our respect just by crossing the starting line, we are free to cheer for the runners without disappointment.  We want them to run better, faster, and stronger than they think is possible, all the while content with the desire to run such a grueling race.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I was watching the race, I both marveled at the community surrounding the runners and sensed that there was something quietly familiar with the picture.  It struck me that cheering for the runners reminded me of some of the finest sentiments that people can exhibit. There is tremendous freedom in loving something without constraints, even to the point of irrationality.  With a boundless love, nothing is sacred.  We can mold, shape, and influence the object of our love so that, in the end, it may look nothing like the thing we started with.  That love wishes that the object be better, faster, and stronger than others might think is possible, all the while content with whatever the outcome might be.  Such a love is rare because it is simply too easy to err in either direction.  Love without change is pointless.  Change without love is destructive.  But the freedom to love something to the point of redemption is the finest of all virtues.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Although I admit my post was loose, I was trying to draw attention to the questions and issues more than taking sides.  For the record, the last thing in my experience to help morals is “organized religion.”  However, I think that a culture of &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;true spirituality&lt;/span&gt; (for lack of better words) will create more religious people as a result.  With respect to your comments this seems to be sufficient justification for my post and the article that inspired it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, with respect to religion, the very idea of a moral code seems to me religious.  What I mean is that moral codes generally assert a set of values based on an ultimate principle.  By ultimate principle I mean that is accepted without any other argument (read CS Lewis &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;tag=afterprogress-20&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;path=tg/detail/-/0060652942/qid=1122448564/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1?v=glance%26s=books%26n=507846"&gt;Abolition of Man&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=afterprogress-20&amp;amp;l=ur2&amp;amp;o=1" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /&gt;).  In short, moral codes generally take certain values by faith.  This seems to be the nature of worldviews.  So, I do not assume Christianity is necessary or the Old Testament literature for humanity be moral.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, in defense of the Old Testament I must say that if its account is true, then nothing is excluded with respect to time.  The Old Testament begins with the creation of the universe, so their would be no “prior to” the timeline of its account.  What is not debatable is that moral people existed before Moses wrote down the initial books.  In fact, there are many moral Old Testament figures that make moral choices and are held accountable for infractions before Moses and the big ten (Adam comes to mind).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is obvious that not everyone in the past was murdered (hello!).  But, need we have anything like a moral code or morality not to kill other people?  Also when do we start counting people as everybody?  Why not start with ants?  Where should we draw lines?  If you don’t think we should, why not draw the line around various obnoxious people and wipe them out?  It seems like the wrongness of that just emerges.  If it does not, then what grounds do we have to call it immoral or moral?  I think there are a few possible explanations of moral people before Moses, and some of them seem probable or sufficient.  When you speak of morals how do you avoid the problem of the criterion?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Along another train of thought, what is “statistical truth?”  When using any sort of induction or abduction (argument from the best explanation) (including your comments) one does not (and cannot) guarantee the truth of what he or she is saying; thus, some sort of probability (with chances less than one and greater than zero) of the event must be mentioned.  I am trying to make sense of “statistical” because it seems rational for me to think in terms of probabilities when speaking of the future based on the past (contra the impression from you comment).  Further, my &lt;a href="http://afterprogress.blogspot.com/2005/07/crosswalkcom-christianity-vanquished.html"&gt;my post&lt;/a&gt; was mostly a set of questions designed to “prime the pump” for the link I provided.  What exactly are you referring to, and do you mean in my post or &lt;a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1340991.html"&gt;Vitagliano's&lt;/a&gt;?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moreover what do you mean by “truth?”  I am assuming a correspondence theory (what are you assuming?).  I don’t think that truth is a degreed property.  Something is either truth, false or neither.  I could be wrong about that, but the counter examples I know of can defeated.  In this case either the statistics are true or false.  Actaully, it is the inference from statistics at issue here.  What counter-argument do you have against my thoughts?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although your comments seem to be without charity, I appreciate how your comments have challenged me to reflect on my views.  If I have time I will generate a more robust post on this topic in the fall.  I the mean time, do good Paul.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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While this failure to communicate was not altogether unexpected, my total unpreparedness and general carelessness was.  How quickly I forget the way of Philosophy Master Socrates!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being a graduate student in Philosophy I struggle with my new skills and insights in a variety of ways.  Mostly, I am aware of my deep inadequacies while beginning to realize how deep the rabbit hole goes.  Ah, but the temptation to pretend (even if only privately) that I now am “all that” creeps up either as a self-medicating response or as a matter of bad habit.  When my foolish heart is filled with vice of this sort, then I play directly into the hands of the know-it-all.  The KIA will rarely acknowledge ignorance, but may do so occasionally to avoid appearing as a KIA (sometimes to justify his or her intra-personal denial).  So, when the rejection of my comment came, rather than seeking an argument for the KIA’s denial of my claim, I just added more assertions to the mix with appeals to authority (primary sources and the ambiguous collection of experts “the majority of Dr. X agree that…”).  I found myself in different kind of regress argument – I regressed to freshman antics for the undisciplined!  However, rather than move from regression to depression, I will attempt to learn from my mistakes and go back to the basics!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Make clear my claims and support them with proper argumentation.  Even casual discussions benefit from at least minimal support of one's points.  If I don’t have support, then I should simply be open about making a claim as an inclination, impression or intuition.  Also, in light of a tentative thesis, I need to remain humble and teachable – even KIA’s know things sometimes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Avoid fallacies.  When has name calling ever contributed anything?  Why drive a discussion with mere rhetoric, unless my goal is to be mean or simply vain?  Logic check!  Make sure the premises support the conclusions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Proceed with clarity by asking questions.  This is the key lesson from Socrates for me in this situation.  Had I not reacted to the denial of my claim with shock and assertions and instead sought grounds for the KIA’s denial, I am sure a misunderstanding would have surfaced or the lack of grounds would have allowed my claim to succeed.  This could have been done with a simple Socratic search for definition and/or other productive questions.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) Respect the person.  What was most surprising to me is how I would not have had a discussion of this sort with another Philosophically trained person because I would have taken the initial comment more seriously.  By respecting the other person, even a KIA, the probability of a successful conversation increases.  Further, if a conversation fails, one saves the embarrassment of have reduced oneself to the level of a KIA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Related Resources&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nacs.org/news/032505-difficultpeople.asp"&gt;Talking to difficult people.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic"&gt;General information&lt;/a&gt; on the nature, topics, and controversies of logic at a glace plus some starter references.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianlogic.com/articles/how_logical_are_you.htm"&gt;Logic Quiz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good &lt;a href="http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html"&gt;list of fallacies&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianlogic.com/articles/short_list_of_fallacies.htm"&gt;Another list of fallacies&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Books&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Classic Logic Text &lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=afterprogress-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=0130337358&amp;fc1=000000&amp;=1&amp;lc1=0000ff&amp;bc1=000000&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;IS2=1&amp;f=ifr&amp;bg1=ffffff&amp;f=ifr" width="120" height="240" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;Basic Logic Text with Christian examples &lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=afterprogress-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=0801038367&amp;fc1=000000&amp;=1&amp;lc1=0000ff&amp;bc1=000000&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;IS2=1&amp;f=ifr&amp;bg1=ffffff&amp;f=ifr" width="120" height="240" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frameborder="0"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Each short chapter concludes with exercises to help readers master the content and then can be self-checked against the answers at the end of the book.  The chapters cover the big idea of each concept with a simple narrative that illustrates the principle or a context to which it applies.  For example when a detective story scenario is developed and you use a skill to solve the mystery.  With respect to what thinking/reasoning skills are developed, three areas are covered: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) “Tools for Thinking” is the section where the elements of reasoning are explained. For example, the contexts for reasoning are illustrated with the distinctions that characterize the difference between a discussion and a disagreement as well as an argument from a fight.  The subsequent chapter helps develop discernment with respect the appropriate times to use your reasoning skills (“When It IS Dumb to Argue”).  Also the parts of an argument are explained so you can identify what is “doing the work” of an argument or how to construct one.  Then tips for building and refining arguments are given.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) “Tools for Opposing Viewpoints” helps one make decisions, realize that there is always another view, and evaluate the quality of the evidence and its source.  Further, this section provides a good beginning to help you discern a motive and various types of evidence.  &lt;br /&gt;3) “Tools for Science” introduces basic scientific method.  This section demonstrates the need for observation provides some tips and skills.  Specifically, the formation of a hypothesis, conducting good experiments, and analyzing the data are each covered well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Structurally the book is organized and easy to follow, the exercises are good, and the narrative delivery of the content make it an easy to read book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why read this book?&lt;br /&gt;Naturally his book will greatly enhance ones abilities for any type of learning (reading, listening, and anything else that requires thought).  Beyond this, in a postmodern, ambiguous, most-everything-is-gray-world we live in, we could all use a little clarity of thought. The thinking toolbox (TTB) is a wonderful start in this direction of clarity. The TTB is especially helpful for young people who are currently in school. Its self-directed learning and youth friendly illustrations and exercises bare the touches of the one who knows well the self-teaching format.  It is a very accessible book even for adults who might be put off by a college level logic or critical thinking text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further, the “real world” applications of good thinking skills are very good.  For example in the beginning of the book a man is featured in an illustration that looks suspicious and is trying to pick up a kid. The kid uses the logical thinking skills from the book to figure out that this guy is lying.  Although the illustration then takes an unexpected twist, any parent can immediately appreciate this tools provided in TTB. Certainly most adults need to deal with many scams each day.  The National &lt;a href="http://fraud.org/"&gt;Fraud Information Center&lt;/a&gt; has enough reported scams going on to merit plenty of critical thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why might you want to read something else?&lt;br /&gt;If you are an adult or a high school student with natural reasoning skills seeking to move to the “next level,” then you might begin with a more advanced text.  Some high school students (and adults) will be put off by the kid-styled illustrations and lack of textual sophistication.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is my overall opinion of the book?&lt;br /&gt;Great book for kids or if you are looking to build a foundation for good reasoning skills.  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I do not think that even a perfect understanding of the brain (apart from the mind) and the right chemical balances will make life great.  However, if you want to throw the “history as a measure” card, do you honestly think that the history of scientology is really better?  Maybe so, but I think this is unwarranted.  At the very least the prescription of vitamins and exercise for post-partum depression is ignorance.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do not support any particular anti-scientology site, and I even agree on a surface level with some of what they say that one has access to free on the scientology site.  I can clearly see some of the appeal to scientology.  I agree that the mental life, and the soul are far more powerful than given credit, and that people are spiritual beings that are capable of deeper awareness than most people can imagine. In fact, the &lt;a href="http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/"&gt;scientology handbook online&lt;/a&gt; with its very limited information seems to be generally sound (even with the awkward pseudo-technical vocabulary).  If it did not seem this way would anyone join the “Church” of scientology?  Further, the “what can it do for me?” pragmatism is very American and certainly appeals to human nature.  The most interesting thing to me was how various assertions were made, but very little was done in the way of supporting truth claims which are often assumed.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The nearest thing to support I found was in the “MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY” section of the site.  But I found these claims to generally be obviously false or &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/straw-man"&gt;straw-man&lt;/a&gt; type arguments.  For example, they claim that the people who are opposed are against self-betterment programs in general.  This seems false.  Compare the anti-betterment argument with this interesting story (if you don’t have time for the book just read the last 3-4 chapters) of a former member and “escapee” of the CoS &lt;a href="http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/xenu/xenu.html#toc"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;.  OR compare this to the latest problems and fresh updates on scientology opponents &lt;a href="http://www.factnet.org/index.html?FACTNet"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;  or &lt;a href="http://www.xenu.net/index.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  OR compare it to the list of claims from a &lt;a href="http://www.apologeticsindex.org/s04.html"&gt;Christian watch dog&lt;/a&gt;.  I have not heard any anti-betterment talk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although I need more information (and time to study scientology) my preliminary search has not given me any faith in Tom “church” even though I have some initial points of agreement. Further, as my family as been touched by post-partum depression I can say that the medical treatment that I have seen changed lives for the better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/ Scientology " rel="tag"&gt;Scientology&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/ Current Affairs " rel="tag"&gt;Current Affairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Religion" rel="tag"&gt;Religion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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To change beliefs or exchange beliefs from belief A to B is equally interesting to me.  Consider the following example to illustrate the interesting issues in an exchange of beliefs.  Imagine someone who is purposely not a Christian, say Al the Atheist, who becomes a Theist.  Although I think many other beliefs would necessarily be changed, for the sake of simplicity let’s limit the discussion to as much as possible to this exchange.  So, did Al decide to believe in God?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IF Al NOT DECIDE to believe in God (i.e. believed unwillfully):&lt;br /&gt;   If Al is simply “predestined” to believe in God, then there is nothing to really “argue” about (unless of course you are Al and could wish he were an Atheist again).  Assuming that religious beliefs and ordinary beliefs are similar in there adoption or denial, God’s “righteousness” would seem to be called into question.  How could God send people to hell (or at least Judas who seems to be there from the New Testament account)?  How could God judge or even the judicial systems of human kind execute any type of punitive or retributive justice? BUT, If religious beliefs are different from all other kinds of belief, that only allows for human justice.  Further, campaigning for office, evangelism, various forms of persuasion are all rehearsals and are pageantry.  In fact the fabric of our lives seems to me to bear a striking similarity to the material used by the alleged tailors of an emperor who needed some new clothes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IF AL DID DECIDE to believe in God:&lt;br /&gt;   It seems to me he either does so DIRECTLY or INDIRECTLY.  If DIRECTLY, then the use of persuasion, justice, etc. has much meaning and value, but then various aspects of our lives seem inexplicably out of our control.  Why is it then that so many Christians for example resonate with Paul that they do the very thing they do not wish to do (Ro7)?  What explains habits and those times where we want to believe but cannot?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   Maybe beliefs are accepted and acquired INDIRECTLY.  If this is the case, one retains his or her responsibility, and our inability to “will to believe” maybe explained.  I am advocating Indirect Doxastic Volunteerism.  So, although Al cannot simply will to believe in God, he can study, evaluate arguments, talk to and spend time with “believers” and if God’s existence is more likely than not, Al may find him-self believing that God exists.  It may be the case that God reveals Himself in this process and the belief is simply formed.  This is not to say that it could not be latter denied or be disbelieved from lack of cultivation.  For example, my wife remembers many people from periodically thinking about them, that I may forget because I don’t think about them.  This is to point our that we do have control about what we focus our awareness on.  The things in my awareness I recognize and believe.  My accuracy my be determined on the accuracy of my recognition or possibly my interpretation of an experience.  However, instead of cashing out a full defense for that at this time (I will eventually) I will cash out some consequences.  For the sake of space and the profile of my typical reader I will focus on Apologetics, Evangelism and maybe a touch of discipleship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apologetics &amp; Evangelism:&lt;br /&gt;   Certainly good arguments are important and the evidence for God can be a key to creating a belief in God.  At the very least, Al needs sufficient defeaters for the arguments against God that he has believed for years.  However, good arguments are not magic.  Many Christians often wins battles and lose wars arguing for the existence of God.  There is no simple list of reasons for this event.  Maybe Al was simply mad at God when his close friend died of cancer.  He needed time and compassion to free his acceptance of belief.  For various reasons, arguments and evidence are not enough to bring about a belief in God for Al (unless the other conditions are already met).  If the argument is enough (all other conditions met) then acceptance of the belief may not occur immediately.  An alignment of ones belief system may take time.  So, one must not be a hasty arguer or have unrealistic expectations of arguments, and certainly there is no place for self-righteous tones because one does not simply and directly choose to believe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Touch of Discipleship:&lt;br /&gt;   Given the above, we need to be patient as a believer changes beliefs and forms new ones.  A tacit assumption in this post is that we can have knowledge by direct acquaintance.  I think direct acquaintance is the most direct (and perhaps foundational) ways to form a belief.  One knows the most and becomes the most like Jesus is one meets Jesus.  The way of discipleship is incarnational.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Christianity" rel="tag"&gt;Christianity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Apologetics" rel="tag"&gt;Apologetics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Worldview" rel="tag"&gt;Worldview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-111894306233117387</id><published>2005-06-16T10:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-06-17T12:15:10.143-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Michael Jackson, Paris Hilton Brad Pitt and Peeping Toms</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;I have recently come out of my cave (the windowless office that I work and study from) to watch the news.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Generally my news sources are from various web sites, blogs, and radio; however, I was unprepared for barrage of Michael Jackson, Paris Hilton and the mounting case against the Paparazzi. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Ironically, the Paparazzi problems put the issues together best in the blame game.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Is it the fault of the publishers who offer the big money, reckless and greedy photographers or the public who is willing to pay for it all?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To some degree the bottom line must be the voyeuristic public that hungers for this stuff. The buyers are the real money source.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Why do we care who Brad Pitt goes for a walk with on the Beach?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What do we hope to gain from such information?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Paris Hilton is famous for being famous (allegedly).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What in the world does that mean to be famous for being famous?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Certainly there is some legitimate need of a human being that must be met, and maybe more than one from such a strange appetite.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Are we longing for connection with other people?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Maybe we chose famous people because we do not think that we will meet them, so we feel safe because we know that our own wounds will not be hurt.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Maybe we chose famous people because their exposure makes us feel like we know them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Brad seems like a nice enough guy, sure we could be friends. Further, Brad is a great guy and as HIS friend people would see that I am really important.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;The problem of voyeuristic relationships is not merely that they are one sided, but that they enhance one's disconnection from reality.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Possibly these disconnections contribute to a form a de-humanization.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In our "curiosity" we treat the object of our star chasing as less than a person.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But the real danger is training our souls to be nourished in mere virtual relationship.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This habit will also eventually impair oneÂs ability to receive love, which to some degree is what we all want when we start such a practice.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, go bowling with your neighbor tonight and give Brad some space.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;You might be surprised how much fun you can have with the people in your neighborhood. Take your "curiosity" and use it to form real &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Georgia;font-size:12;"  &gt;relationships &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;and you will become a better lover and be more beloved.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Current Affairs" rel="tag"&gt;Current Affairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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The lead in goes as follows: “Jesus died of blood clot, Israeli researcher says…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="letter-spacing: 0.55pt;font-family:Georgia;" &gt;Expert: Crucifixion caused pulmonary embolism, not fatal blood loss.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The article begins with&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7279844/did/8139434/?GT1=6657"&gt;“An Israeli researcher has challenged the popular belief that Jesus died of blood loss on the cross, saying he probably succumbed to a sometimes fatal disorder now associated with long-haul air travel.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Who really thinks Jesus died of blood loss? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;There are two difficulties about the accusation that it is a “common” belief that Jesus died of blood loss.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;First, although the MSNBC article sites a Journal of American Medical Association’s 1986 article, there are too few households with JAMA under the coffee tables to consider what they say to be the “common” view.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The common view on the cause of death by crucifixion in general seems to be suffocation, at least among Christians.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The evidence of this is the practice of breaking the legs of the person so he (or she?) could not push up on his legs to breath.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus being dead on examination was pierced by a spear to verify his passing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, if anything, what we have here is a case of science overturning science (unless you consider medicine something else) not the "common" view.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Second, the death of Jesus in particular is frequently taught in Christian churches as the result of a heart attack or a similar condition.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The evidence of this claim is often inferred from the flow of blood and “water” from the spear wound.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In a church setting Pastors and Priest’s connect the parallels of purpose and the physical facts of Jesus’ death.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Namely, Jesus lovingly died to reconcile all the alienated people of the world to God and His great love; thus, Jesus dies of a broken heart in more than one way.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This seems to be reasonably closer to “common” belief, whatever it might be.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Does this really matter?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What if it turns out that the scourging gave Jesus some kind of bacterial infection that builds in his system and then caused sudden death?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Whether Jesus died of a condition that is now associated with cramped seats on air planes, a heart attack that makes for nice illustrations in sermons, or some unknown condition, he still died on the cross.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The biblical account is not threatened by these details.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;It would seem that &lt;b style=""&gt;this article is motivated by one of the following reasons&lt;/b&gt;: 1) Jesus did not die from the cause that is commonly believed.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To have a certified scientific fact disproving a common belief important to an event undermines the credibility of the event.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, we should question the account of Jesus’ death (and the Resurrection even more).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;2) Jesus did not die from the cause that is commonly believed, but died of the same condition that threatens the economy class passengers flying on the wickedly designed seats evil empire of aircraft industry.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Such conditions are so bad that only the picture of the most holy man to walk the earth dies from this same horrible condition.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;3) Although possibly wrong with respect to “common” beliefs, here is an insight into the actual death of Jesus.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is simply a fact, and this evidence is neutral toward all other claims about Jesus, Christianity and the aircraft industry.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;4) Some combination of the above motivations.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Since, motives of any sort are rarely pure; some combination of motives is most likely.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But the chief motivation would seem to be option 1.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Option 2 is simply too weird of a connection, even if one tones down my exaggerated account.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Option 3 seems to be not really newsworthy, unless one considers any news about Jesus newsworthy (if this is the case I would agree).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, my vote leans toward one, such that &lt;b style=""&gt;any news that is against Jesus is newsworthy&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;IF, I am right about this, we should all grieve the loss of reporting based on objectivity and the pursuit of the FACTS and TRUTH.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Our cultural preference for entertainment over reality is revealed in our acceptance of this kind of reporting.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;IF I am wrong, how can we explain the general impression of selective intolerance against aspects of Christianity or at least Theism?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Further, I regularly see news reports I know for a fact are wrong.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Will &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;America&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; rise up and demand more from the media or will WE simply roll over and enjoy the siren song until it is too late?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;The media is not the Devil.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Everyone has a bias.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I can accept this, but what I cannot accept is the media increasingly distant from the world they are reporting on.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What was most striking about this article was &lt;b style=""&gt;not &lt;/b&gt;that it was totally slanted or wrong, but that it was simply so thin.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Religion" rel="tag"&gt;(How much are people talking about Religion?)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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&lt;/script&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/11363638-111834119786004741?l=afterprogress.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7279844/did/8139434/?GT1=6657' title='Jesus reveals the heart of the media'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://afterprogress.blogspot.com/feeds/111834119786004741/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11363638&amp;postID=111834119786004741&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11363638/posts/default/111834119786004741'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/11363638/posts/default/111834119786004741'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://afterprogress.blogspot.com/2005/06/jesus-reveals-heart-of-media.html' title='Jesus reveals the heart of the media'/><author><name>J. Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-111757225392716839</id><published>2005-05-31T13:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-05-31T13:47:09.670-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Caught in the Act of subverting Christian Confession to Sin</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/31/arts/design/31boxe.html?ex=1275192000&amp;en=e23b267fa470ab35&amp;amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;amp;emc=rss"&gt;Sarah Boxer&lt;/a&gt; has written a very perceptive article that contains excellent spiritual exhortations for anyone with ears to hear.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Her first main insight reveals perverted appearance of on-line confession sites.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;She compares a flasher to this poster of sins.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I think she is right about that.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Confession can become a sanctified way of revealing in our sin.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The “flasher” metaphor captures the mode of this error well.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The point of confession is to become Christ-like by bringing a weakness before God so to acknowledge an area of need of God.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We trust Christ and allow His Body to enter into our wound and bring the freedom and love of Christ into our wounds in order to heal the root of sin.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The root is the real cause of sin, not just changing behavior.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, anonymous web-confessionals are ill suited for any healthy use.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There is no owning of one’s sin if one will not own up to who they are.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If one did, there is still insufficient community to aid in healing. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Further even if sufficient “virtual” community existed, it is unlikely that this venue is capable of manifesting the love and freedom of Christ necessary to heal the actual wounds of the “sinner.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;A second insight fills in details about the dramatic disconnect between that people who think of the sight as a “healing” and prayer-filled environment and the performance of another sin.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Boxer quotes a reader who expresses that he believes in the genuineness of the people who contribute.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Boxer’s response is worth quoting at length:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;“Oh, but there is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;[fakeness]&lt;i style=""&gt;. And it is the fakeness, the artifice and the performance that make this confessional worth peeking at. The secret sharers here aren't mindless flashers but practiced strippers. They don't want to get rid of their secrets. They love them. They arrange them. They tend them. They turn them into fetishes. And that's the secret of PostSecret. It isn't really a true confessional after all. It is a piece of collaborative art.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;How often are Christian accountability groups simply guilt groups or some other version of performative art?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How often do we treasure our sin or make it an object of “beauty”?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-111713456882877404</id><published>2005-05-26T11:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-05-26T12:09:28.836-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Making Sense of Bush, Stem Cell Research, Ethics and Misinformation</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;Granted, sometimes even Bush may not understand Bush, so I am not going to claim that I have any answers in my crystal ball on why he is threatening to veto the stem cell research bill.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, I do think that is what I would do in his shoes.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My reasons have to do with the misinformation (a nice way to say that the public and maybe capital hill have been deceived) and the ethical issues that follow.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;Let’s start with the &lt;b style=""&gt;deception&lt;/b&gt; of the public.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;First, the general public seems to think that the only stem cells are embryonic stem cells and that is not true.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;One clue is found in the name “embryonic.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If there is only one kind, this label would not be meaningful unless it was some sort of rhetorical device created by pro-life groups.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It turns out that there are Adult stem cells too (and maybe more kinds).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although adult stem cells are now being talked about, they are slanderously discussed with the tone of “limited” and “narrow” words that make them sound like 3 day old leftovers.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;Second, embryonic stem cells are getting lots of attention and lots of promises are made about their &lt;b style=""&gt;potential&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This potential is real.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, to my knowledge there are no known treatments that work, while there are over 80 &lt;a href="http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID4211%7CCHID278062%7CCIID1417016,00.html"&gt;successful treatments developed from adult stem cells&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The crazy part is that the very potential of the embryonic cells is what seems to make them &lt;a href="http://www.christianity.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID4211%7CCHID278062%7CCIID621104,00.html"&gt;difficult to use&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If you are a gambler, they seem to be a long-shot that will not likely pay off.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But if it did, it would be a big pay-off.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These cells are fully totipotential.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This means that this cell has the ability to become any cell in the body.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The hard part is that the scientific community has no idea who the foreman of the work crew is.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Thus, if you don’t know who is running the show, you can’t take his seat.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Genes function like the steering wheel, and steering wheels play a legitimate causal role in the direction of the vehicle.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although there is high potential, the probabilities are not in favor of a pay-off. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;In response, someone might claim that the only reason this is true is that so little research has been done.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although there is some merit to this reply, it makes other problematic assumptions about the nature of persons and has an unfalsifiable perspective.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, this perspective is of the same sort as the statement “I could have beat Michael Jordan one-on-one if I could score more points.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Also it is smart investing to work on adult stem cells which will likely suffer less complications like there will probably not be rejection issues because they come from your own body.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Of course that leads into &lt;a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/smith200505240809.asp"&gt;the question of cloning&lt;/a&gt; oneself and parting your other self out.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The point here is that there has been enough evidence that to show that embryonic stem cell research is a difficult path and probabilities and actual successful treatments make adult stem cells a better candidate for research.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;Another key issue is the very nature of personhood is in the balance.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Bush and I agree (I think) that an embryo is a person.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Have you seen the Matrix?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Imagine thousands of people in pods hooked up to machines, only instead of being utilized for energy by an army of crazy machines; there are doctors who cut them up for their parts.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.str.org/weblog/blog_archives/00000365.htm"&gt;issue of personhood is central&lt;/a&gt; to the debate, and certainly it is not settled.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even if you are inclined to think that an embryo is not a person, consider the ramifications if you are wrong for one minute.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The stakes are too high to call it science and simply proceed without serious thought.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’ll save this one for another post, and finish with a “just suppose.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Suppose that I told you that one month babies are people yet and that by taking their organs we could save thousands of lives.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is obviously wrong because we know these are little people.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, when does life begin? – Conception.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When &lt;a href="http://www.str.org/weblog/blog_archives/00000360.htm"&gt;personhood begins&lt;/a&gt; makes a big difference– I think it begins at conception.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When &lt;b style=""&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; draw the line and &lt;b style=""&gt;why&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If embryos are people, then it is a “no-brainer.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If they are not, then alternative constructions of what it means to be human may seriously undermine more than we might ever gain.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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What, exactly, is the point?  Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council lists four reasons why this isn't just political but religious as well, and why it is incumbent upon all Christians to join this distinctly religous struggle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  The Legalization of Abortion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a tough one.  For pro-lifers, abortion isn't just about curtailing the rights of women, it's about protecting the lives of unborn children.  More than a religious issue, it's a question of justice.  But it's also an issue that resonates with &lt;a href="http://prolife.liberals.com/"&gt; more &lt;/a&gt; than just the religiously minded.  So the question is why Christians are drawing the wagons so close.  If abortion is an issue of life and death that should alarm all Americans, the debate shouldn't be about people of faith.  Wouldn't it make more sense to rally all Americans, both religious and non-religious, to fight for a more just society?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even more troubling is that when you paint the problem of abortion in religious terms, you give liberals more fodder for the cannons. Nothing is more dangerous to healthy debate than empty rhetoric.  It means the speaker isn't thinking and it gives the listener an excuse to be dismissive. The challenge is whether pro-lifers can argue against abortion on terms everyone can accept.  Christians must never paint abortion as a religious issue if they intend to change the minds of the pro-choice community. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  The Banning of School Prayer&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn't as tough of an issue.  What's traumatic about school prayer isn't that we don't have it, it's that it was taken away.  School prayer isn't about saving the souls of children, it's about what how we conceive of our country.  At root, are we a Christian nation, where we separate the state from the church for the good of the church?  Or are we a pluralistic  nation, where we separate the church from the state for the good of the state?  And does this even matter?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm inclined to think it doesn't matter.  For Christians, and more particularly Evangelicals, the big point in life is telling people about the love of God.  So the thought surely must be that by preserving our Christian heritage, we are allowing the gospel to fluorish, thereby opening up the gates of heaven.  But that can't be right. Revival, and its evil twin spiritual decay, can never work from the top down.  The changes in our nation's laws hasn't pushed this nation away from Christianity but rather has merely been the reflection of a changing nation.  And if modifying our laws was never the problem, then it can't be the solution.  Spiritual change must come from the bottom up. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  The Expulsion of the 10 Commandments from Public Spaces&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This really mystifies me. Again, I'm forced to ask, so what?  What benefit is there to a public display of the 10 commandments?  When people shuffle in and out of courtrooms that display the 10 commandments, they don't stop to ponder the wonderful Judeo-Christian heritage this nation enjoys.  And if a courtroom doesn't have the 10 commandments on display, people don't fret over whether our laws are built on a firm foundation.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fight, of course, is once again over the way we conceive of our nation. But at what price do we pay for such a debate?  The more Christians fight over religious expression in the public sphere, the more tempting it is to water down such expression.  And there is no point for more exposure to this nation's Christian heritage when all you eventually get is a civic religion that doesn't really represent anyone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.  The Starvation of Terri Schiavo&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, we see that the Family Research Council has launched this campaign, in part, over the cause of a single woman.  Here, I am left to wonder if our priorities are woefully mixed up.  There is much wrong with our country and our world, and it strikes we as unfortunate that some Christians have put so much emphasis on a single tragic choice. Figuring out the right thing to do in end-of-life scenarios is not a simple task and what the courts did may or may not have been the wise choice. But at the least, the charitable interpretation of what happened with Terri Schiavo is to say that it was a murky debate over a difficult issue, and not another example of a nation gone awry. I am fearful, however, that Terri Schiavo has instead been enlisted in a fight against what some people perceive is religious bigotry.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These four issues strike me as a mix of legitimate topics for public debate, and senseless hand-wringing over the place of Christianity in public life. What is common to all of these issues is that they are dangerous when mixed with the rhetoric of religious persecution.  First, if Christians try to monopolize the abortion debate, then the cause is lost.  If Christians expect to make progress in how this nation conceives of abortion, then it must enlist the non-religious. Second, if Christians remain convinced that this nation should change its laws to save its soul, then we are in deep trouble. What is the point of the 10 commandments on display if you had to alienate a nation of non-Christians to get it there?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so I'm left wondering about the fight against religious bigotry. There has got to be a better way.  I just don't know what that is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;UPDATE:  &lt;a href="http://www.consistent-life.org/"&gt; Here &lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.plagal.org/"&gt; here &lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.democratsforlife.org/"&gt; and here &lt;/a&gt; are some links to other organizations who stand opposed to abortion but yet have no part in a Republican struggle against the judiciary.  I'm curious as to what they think of all this.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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I do not think that. At least I know I should be very angry if the Mohammedans tried to prevent the rest of us from drinking wine. My own view is that the Churches should frankly recognize that the majority of the British people are not Christians and, therefore, cannot be expected to live Christian lives."  C.S. Lewis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was quite a bit of &lt;a href="http://premium.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/24/justice.sunday/"&gt; coverage &lt;/a&gt; of the Christian rally held on Friday about the fight over the President's judicial nominees.  James Dobson, in his own understated way, claimed that nothing less than "the future of democracy and ordered liberty" was at stake in this fight over judicial nominees.  And to think, I always thought that the future of our liberty was in the hands of Someone bigger than the federal judiciary.  But what do I know?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The rally styled the debate over Bush's nominees as a fight between Bible believing Christians and those who stand in opposition to people of faith.  The basic question is whether people may use the Bible to formulate their political beliefs and to what extent that is permissible.  Ostensibly, James Dobson and Tony Perkins don't favor the literal use of the Bible for the purposes of Constitutional interpretation.  But if they aren't advocating a theocracy, what do they mean when they talk of a war against people of faith?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They must mean that a "Christian" stance is more or less embodied in a conservative agenda, and to work against Bush's conservative nominees is to work actively against people of faith.  What this does, then, is it transforms political debate into a religious one.  Working against Republican ideals might have been an nuisance in the past, but now that the debate is about what a Christian's response to current events is, the debate takes on apocalyptic overtones.  Does James Dobson think that a conservative agenda still needs to appeal to shared premises in order to work?  I think so.  But he would probably argue that no matter what a conservative might say to a liberal, no amount of reasoning will ever be sufficient.  The reason is because the basic hostility liberals have to conservatives is no longer political.  The hostility, instead, is religious.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question, though, is what right do James Dobson and Tony Perkins have with styling this debate in religious terms?  The reason why some conservatives think the debate about the judiciary really is about religion is based on that initial premise about the relationship between conservativism and faith.  But political conservativism is not a necessary consequence of an orthodox Christian faith.  (I welcome comments if you disagree with this statement.)  And when Republicans claim that this debate is really about faith only exacerbates the problem.  It's no surprise that liberals are anti-faith if they think that the faith you happen to be selling means they have to commit themselves to a political framework they find repulsive.  In this sense, we seem to be in a vicious circle.  Liberals are leery of Evangelicals because we seem to be selling a strange hybrid of faith and politics.  Evangelicals look at the rejection of our faith and our politics in tandem, and instead of looking inward, simply chalk it up to an irrational prejudice against faith.  And in this debate, there are no solutions, just a widening gulf.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;at &lt;a href="http://www.biola.edu/"&gt;Biola&lt;/a&gt; where he lectured on &lt;a href="http://www.idthefuture.com/"&gt;intelligent design&lt;/a&gt;(id).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It was a popular level lecture filled with careful illustrations and a big picture assessment of the &lt;a href="http://www.idthefuture.com/"&gt;id movement&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Dembski also made it clear that the problem with Naturalistic Evolution is that it can not and does not account for the specified &lt;a href="http://www.iscid.org/"&gt;complexity of the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.evolutionnews.org/"&gt;Evolution&lt;/a&gt;, does (on one level) adequately describe how organisms change over time, but he claims that Naturalistic evolution is too blind to account for the design in the world.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;The momentum of skepticism about the adequacy of Naturalistic Evolution is increasing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.idthefuture.com/index.php?title=laughlin_clarifies_his_views_on_evolutio&amp;more=1&amp;amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;amp;pb=1"&gt;Dembski cited Robert Laughlin’s&lt;/a&gt; book, among several others, to point out the “anti-theory” affect of many evolutionists today.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Laughlin, who is clearly an evolutionist, says &lt;a href="http://www.idthefuture.com/index.php?title=laughlin_clarifies_his_views_on_evolutio&amp;more=1&amp;amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;amp;pb=1"&gt;“it's wrong to use evolution, a theory of origins, to justify monkeying with nature without understanding what you're doing.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although Laughlin is a supporter of evolution &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Georgia;"&gt;his position is sympathetic toward id when he states &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;in an e-mail to Dembski &lt;a href="http://www.idthefuture.com/index.php?title=laughlin_clarifies_his_views_on_evolutio&amp;more=1&amp;amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;amp;pb=1"&gt;“that much of modern science isn't objective at all but a belief system in disguise, one that often DOESN'T respect nature, even though it alleges to do so.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;Further, the design work being done has great benefits to other fields that I had not thought of until after hearing Dembski.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, imagine you are an archeologist (Dr. Dirt) looking for some lost city.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Dembski’s work could help you by giving you a design detector that would help you discern which mounds of dirt are built by intelligence (presumably human).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In this way Dr. Dirt could save much time and money by digging only the mounds with the highest probability of being part of the lost city.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;At the end of the night no one can claim a definitive victory in the intelligent design verses evolution debate.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I think the debate should be aired in the world of ideas and may the strongest (assuming the truth is stronger than falsehood) win.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-111363757403855609</id><published>2005-04-16T00:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-04-17T15:17:40.750-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Naturalistic Presuppositions Test Part #1 and an Argument from the existence of Mind</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;My last post was a tad misunderstood or at least misrepresented by the &lt;a href="http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/001277.html#more"&gt;Evangelical Outpost&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I agreed that Naturalism is at the end of the day self refuting.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, the tone was uncharitable, and the mistakes of Naturalistic thinking are far too complex to, without serious argument, dismiss so lightly.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;To the credit of the Evangelical Outpost, he has recanted (mostly?) of this tone.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the other hand, the details of the problems are often so abundant that it is difficult to write a readable post that contains any robust argumentation without either writing a book or being overly condensed by technical philosophical terminology.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What is more difficult is that at the very bottom, philosophical intuitions may be running around.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;This post is an attempt to offer the first of a couple simpler posts that zero in on some grounding points of the debate which can easily fly away into problems.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I am happy to support my arguments more robustly to any who post questions, and ground more deeply this or any other argument as I am able to do so.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt 0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;The Discovery scenario: Imagine and discovery is made about x, y, and z…&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;a)&lt;span style=""&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Philosophers and religious leaders agree (which is tantamount to a miracle) that the human mind is essentially x, y, and z.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Further, x, y and z have also been generally maintained for most of human history.&lt;br /&gt;Do you believe it?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How confident are you in your correctness (either for or against)?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;b)&lt;span style=""&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Scientists have PROVEN that the nature of a mind is simply the brain, and further that x, y, and z are false.&lt;br /&gt;Do you believe it?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How confident are you in your correctness (either for or against)?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;If you were leaning toward affirming b) and away from a), then you probably have a scientific naturalistic basis (which could be appropriately justified or falsified at this point).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This is similar to thinking that “we” did not know anything, or very little, or had no justification for beliefs about the mind &lt;b style=""&gt;before modern science&lt;/b&gt;; SO, “now that science says something I can believe it!”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;IF you would affirm the truth potential of a), and are skeptical of b) because it competes with the huge body of KNOWLEDGE roughly constant through human history, THEN you do not have a Naturalistic bias.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;PROBLEMS: Consider the compatibility of Naturalism (the belief that all things exist in space and time (i.e. physical) and are empirically verifiable (at least in theory).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How could someone PROVE that?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What is proof?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Is it evidence that adds up to a conclusion?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What is “adds?”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Where are the laws of logic?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Can we stipulate them into the theory without their being physical and/or empirically verifiable?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Let’s say this is possible (which seems false).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How does one “use” these laws to “add” them?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If it a linguistic function?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;(leads to) What is language? (leads to) What are words?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;(leads to) What are meanings? All this then leads to the possibility for mental things that exist outside space and time, and are to be understood by a rational enduring self.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;This skeleton of an argument against naturalism because of the existence of minds has two forms.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Naturalist might say: 1) if Naturalism is true, minds don’t exist (&lt;a href="http://www.naturalism.org/tenetsof.htm"&gt;see Naturalism site on self&lt;/a&gt;). 2) Naturalism is true.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;3) Therefore, Minds don’t exist.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;GIVEN the soundness of the premises the conclusion follows.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;However the non-Naturalist can frame the argument this way.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;1) If Naturalism is true, minds don’t exist (note that this is the same). 2) It is NOT the case that mind’s DON’T exist (this is poor grammar, but good logical form).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;3) Therefore Naturalism is NOT true.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Bottom line: Although it is not SELF-EVIDENT that naturalism is self-defeating, and one can certainly be rational to believe it; BUT, how could one believe it without having a mind? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Georgia;font-size:12;"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://dangerousidea.blogspot.com/2005/04/aristotle-bush-rational-inference-and.html"&gt;A similar argument is also made by Dr. Reppert&lt;/a&gt; with respect to the necessity of a mind for rational inference.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.seussville.com/"&gt;Dr. Seuss&lt;/a&gt; version&lt;/b&gt;: If Naturalism is true, then where is the who?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-111298405491723566</id><published>2005-04-08T11:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2005-04-11T01:55:41.276-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Center For Naturalism Asks us to Choose the Impossible</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="bodygaramondafter6pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.naturalism.org/center_for_naturalism.htm"&gt;“Naturalism as a world view is based on the premise that knowledge about what exists and about how things work is BEST (my emphasis) achieved through the sciences, not personal revelation or religious tradition.”&lt;/a&gt; They are open and consistent, from what I have read of their view. However, if “best” is means that counts as knowledge is restricted to ONLY what science can say, then why is it not the center for scientism. Ultimately physics “runs the show” in this view, so if you look at the world through the sciences you will organize or study larger groups and different arrangements of molecules and atoms without adding new properties. This means that “love” is just a chemical in your brain, you don’t have free will, and God, angels, and souls (life after death) can not exist. Further, there is no “self” to make decisions or cause behavior. Again, the Center for Naturalism acknowledges all these things because they are consistent with their view. This is somewhat refreshing because &lt;a href="http://www.discovery.org/scripts/blogs/htsrv/trackback.php?tb_id=214"&gt;Evolutionary Naturalists tend to simply assume Naturalism is true without explaining much of what their view entails.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This runs against the stream of what is considered basic knowledge of human persons for much of human history.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is counter-intuitive (that I don’t really have freewill.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Of course none of these reasons is sufficient to show Naturalism to be false.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But it seems like a big bullet to bite, and I wonder how many people can really hold to this consistently in day to day living.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="bodygaramondafter6pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Naturalism is a philosophy that in its inclusivistic form rules out large bodies of beliefs that most people have; however, most of Western civilization today assumes at least one belief that presupposes Naturalism. In general western culture assumes that what counts as knowledge must be scientific or at least rooted in science, and this is clearly a point where Naturalism is already apart of our culture. So, the Center for Naturalism is probably trying to help people become consistent with their belief systems and assume that what needs to go is all this nonsense about having choices, punitive punishment, life after death, and God among other things like that you are conscious. The problem is that Naturalism has already limited what counts as knowledge to scientific data. Given this situation, Naturalism is true by definition because science no longer, generally speaking, considers data outside matter. For example, Science can never answer questions about the fact that pains hurt. Pains don’t hurt scientifically (empirically, although I don’t deny that there is a close relationship). Science can explain that there are simply various fibers that stimulate a brain state. “Hurting” entails much more than the physical universe and pains hurt.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Minimally, hurt entails an owner to hurt, and the sensation of painfulness. I don’t have time to spell this argument out fully here, but if you post a comment requesting information, I will argue this more fully in another post and present both sides of the argument as well. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="bodygaramondafter6pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Naturalism as it relates to neo-Darwinian evolutionary theory can be seen as a cumulative case argument with an inference to the best explanation. So, the real question is DOES SCIENCE best explain what is going on? IF so, then Naturalism may be correct (IF there really is NO ENTITY that exist outside physical matter). IF there is at least ONE ENTITY that cannot be explained, then Naturalism is false.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The best general strategy is to call into question what is the best explanation like the &lt;a href="http://www.idthefuture.com/"&gt;Intelligent Design&lt;/a&gt; guys are going. At least this seems a good starting point because if the ID arguments are possibly true, then one cannot simply stipulate away the existence of souls, freewill, personal responsibility, and consciousness. If the ID arguments are possibly true, then there is reasonable doubt to support at least more investigation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In my view, Naturalism is begging the question more than they are self-defeating. They have starting points for their view that could come to no other conclusion than their view. It seems that the current formulation of Naturalism is self-defeating, but it seems POSSIBLE that they might be able to reformulate it so that it is not.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But it is possible that I might win the lotto too, so I am not sure mere possibility offers too much hope for strict Naturalism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="bodygaramondafter6pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;My thanks go to the The Evangelical Outpost (EO) for bringing the Center for Naturalism to my attention. Although I agree with many of his thoughts, I believe there are a few things in his article that given an imprecise perception (&lt;a href="http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/001271.html#more"&gt;Naturalism for Dummies: Contradictions, Causal Connections, and the Center for Naturalism&lt;/a&gt;). Naturalism is not self-evidently self defeating, and one should not one should not simply go around claiming without argument that Naturalism is self defeating (even IF it is. Plantinga’s argument may go through, and at the very least one should link to a version of it before making dramatic assessments (even IF true). Further, Plantinga’s conclusion is that &lt;a href="http://hisdefense.org/articles/ap001.html"&gt;“The conclusion to be drawn, therefore, is that the conjunction of naturalism with evolutionary theory is self-defeating: it provides for itself an undefeated defeater. It is therefore unacceptable and irrational.”&lt;/a&gt; So, maybe it is not exactly correct to claim that Naturalism is self defeating, but the CONJUNCTION of Naturalism and Evolutionary theory is self-defeating. However, the Center for Naturalism affirms a evolutionary stance and I do not know of any Naturalist’s who don’t; so this might be an accurate criticism at the end of the day. My motivation is that as Christians I think we should be as fair as possible, even if they are not fair to us. Sadly, I think that, more often than not, many Christians are not willing to read a "for Dummies" assessment.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Instead, it seems that many Americans simply pick a side without even engaging in the issues (many are not even aware of deeper issues). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Cheers to you Evangelical Outpost for trying to help some Christians, but it would be help to link more to full argumentation of the issues.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="bodygaramondafter6pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;One other brief critique of Joe’s post, which is really my only true criticism is that when Joe says “Think about what is being claimed: A human is indistinguishable from nature and comprised completely of physical matter; not one molecule in our bodies is sentient. Yet somehow when you combine all of these non-sentient molecules in the shape of a human being, a unique property magically arises.” (&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/mt/mt-tb.cgi/1257"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255); text-decoration: none;"&gt;http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/mt/mt-tb.cgi/1257&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I do not think that the Naturalist actually is claiming that a new property emerges.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;At least the Naturalist is not claiming this “out loud,” but there is some hocus pocus.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It seems to me that the claim is more like “Can you believe it?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Somehow it really seems like we have consciousness (or some other mental property), but we don’t.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That is amazing.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It has a mystic-phyicalist-Buddhist flavor.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="bodygaramondafter6pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;In Conclusion, Naturalism is a major bullet to bite that contradicts much of history, intuition and seems hard to live by.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It is extremely difficult for me to deny that I am a self with a mind that can “hurt,” etc.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Naturalism may be self-refuting, but let’s not take a tone that makes Naturalist’s seem foolish or un-intelligent.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the other hand, verificationism was definitely self-refuting and there were a lot of brilliant people who believed and defended it for years before it finally crashed.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What will history show?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, the Center for Naturalism has a web site to help you choose Naturalism to be the guiding principle of your belief system, and that appears to be a self-defeating proposition if they are correct.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Although I don’t think food and water constitute “artificial” life support, I do think that it might be better to euthanize her instead of starving her to death. If you are going to end someone’s life, then do it properly and admit that you are doing exactly that. I don’t care for “let nature take its course.” I am generally opposed to euthanasia, but I am more opposed to euthanasia by neglect. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Legally I don’t know what are the limits and acceptable actions, but certainly there are some rights every person has even if they are handicapped. I don’t buy into this&lt;a href="http://www.worldmagblog.com/blog/archives/013318.html"&gt; “vegetative state”&lt;/a&gt; rhetoric. There have been&lt;a href="http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/mar/05031408.html"&gt; people who have been in similar states who have recovered when doctors said this was not possible.&lt;/a&gt; Even if recovery does not happen I don't think it is a wise practice to insure that it does not. I am well aware of the consequences of this ides because I have worked with all levels of disabilities as a direct care worker, and I have changed the dippers and fed people like Terri. She is still a person and not a vegetable. I also don’t think that a person’s mental life is strictly limited to brain function, and neither should you. If your mental life is strictly limited to states of your brain then you need to accept the fact that you are not conscious. The medical field will never be able find the center of consciousness in the brain because it is not there. Another implication if that were the case is that you would not have free will. Your decisions would be direct consequences of your body chemistry, and so all actions by physical organisms are determined such that no one could be ethically accountable for his or her actions. Now, I know there is much here I have asserted and not properly argued for, and have read attempts by philosophers and physicians to account for a physcialist (that is one who believes that the world is strictly physical) form of consciousness. I think these fail. Additionally, I think the testimony of experts is a weighty thing that one should not overturn lightly, but I don’t think that Neurosurgeons have a complete picture. I don’t think I do either, but I believe I have enough information to rebut, if not refute their claims…at least enough to have my own opinion of dissent in THIS case. Terri is a person, and if we can not provide her with food and water, lets not pretend that we are not taking her life and “let her die” slowly.&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;On the other hand these issues are very difficult. As human beings we should be thoughtful about these things and think though whatever we believe very carefully. I think that too many people have instinctively chosen sides because their party says one thing, or in the past they thought one thing. What do you think now? Why do you think THAT? How certain are you that you are correct? May we all dig into the issues with courage and hold our convictions with humility.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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Hawthorne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14977269195351877773</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11363638.post-111168455752130451</id><published>2005-03-24T12:19:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2005-03-24T09:36:51.043-08:00</updated><title type='text'>What is a "Culture of Life?"</title><content type='html'>One of the rallying cries heard often in the debate swirling around Terri Schiavo is that her cause is part of an effort to create a culture of life in this country and around the world.  This is a laudable goal.  This world would be a better place, or perhaps even a perfect one, if every individual on the planet were committed to making peace and preserving life.  Life is, so the truism goes, a gift from God.  Yet, in the midst of all this, I wonder if our conception of a culture of life truly reflects the heart of God, or is just as much a reflection of 21st century fears and insecurities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Americans fear death.  Although cemetaries are everywhere in this country, good luck in finding one just by driving around.  We tend to hide them.  Our culture glorifies the beauty of youth.  Death is only for the aged, who live in homes reserved especially for them, away from the young.  Above all, medicine is meant to improve and lengthen our lives.  And if medicine has a way of lengthening our lives, no matter the quality, then it must be God's will that life continue.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is in stark contrast to the generations preceding us.  Traditionally, death has been everywhere.  Mothers had many children, often because they knew that not all of them would make it.  As people aged, they stayed with their families.  And children saw for themselves what it was to die, and accompanied their elders at home as they passed on.  Likewise, the emphasis on the manner in which individuals died that has been lost.  For the ancient Greeks, as well as countless of other cultures, a hero's death during the course of battle was among the greatest honors a mortal could receive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have we lost some perspective on the place of death in all of our lives?  I think so.  The enemy of Terri Schiavo is not the husband who wishes to remove her feeding tube.  In many ways, Terri Schiavo died on the day she collapsed and fell into her present condition.  So we must question the role technology has in preserving a life that has been robbed of so much.  The technology is both a curse and a blessing.  It seems so cruel to let her die of dehydration, but there is a tragic quality to the life she leads now.  We mourn for what happened, but celebrate and protect the life she leads.  Her life is in a twilight zone unseen by previous generations.    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps it is important for all people to be more accepting of death, more willing to accept the fact that all we do is delay the inevitable.  And since it is inevitable, perhaps we should return again to the idea that the manner in which we die is important too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My final wish is that all individuals who are committed to a "culture of life" would not limit their interest to the lightning rod issues of today.  In my mind, a true "culture of life" is a culture that is committed to eradicating not just abortion and euthanasia, but poverty as well.  I understand the reason why people are so concerned with Terri Schiavo, and rightfully so.  Her story has captured the attention of a nation.  But why aren't people in this country more concerned with the plight of AIDS in Africa?  Or why aren't people more concerned with the epidemic of sexual trafficking in parts of Asia?  The idea that life is precious means that we should not only preserve life, but protect it as well.  There are many lives around the world that are in bondage to the shackles of poverty, disease, and oppression.  What are we doing about that?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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 &lt;/span&gt;Does it surprise anyone that a guy who lives on Fast food restaurant food for one month gets fat or that a diet of fries, burgers and greasy fair is bad for you?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Georgia;"&gt;What do we do if the pixie dust that enables junk food consumption without its consequences is discovered?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Check out this link that says we are finding out some secrets in this area &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00050FB0-25A5-1236-A5A583414B7F0000&amp;ref=sciam&amp;amp;chanID=sa003"&gt;Scientific American: Additive Might Fight Fast-Food Fat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;Note that the scientist is says that we should eat less (bad) fats.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;MY QUESTION is about the nature of the real problem.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I personally like junk food, but desire to maintain a healthier balance than I currently do.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Consider some root issues of why I eat poorly.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;1) Is it that we simply do not really &lt;b style=""&gt;believe&lt;/b&gt; that these things are bad for us?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, like the smoker who says well it may cause cancer, but I probably will not get cancer.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;2) Is it a &lt;b style=""&gt;character&lt;/b&gt; issue such that I believe that it will kill me but I have not the internal fortitude to resist the temptation of the bad food?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Or maybe I know that it will kill me, but I really don’t want to end my life quickly (plus death by ice cream sounds acceptable).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;3) Is it a &lt;b style=""&gt;priority&lt;/b&gt; issue so that my life is so fast paced, I just don’t have time to eat properly now – but my long term goal is to eat right.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;4) Is it &lt;b style=""&gt;ignorance&lt;/b&gt; and there are people who just did not know that junk food is junk?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;5) Is it &lt;b style=""&gt;laziness&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Who really wants to cook tonight?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;6) Or is it a &lt;b style=""&gt;combination&lt;i style=""&gt; &lt;/i&gt;or something else&lt;/b&gt; that is at the root of this junk food nation – the siren songs of commercials, radiation that has corrupted out DNA, I eat what I like and I simply don’t care if it has food in it mentality.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;I don’t have any answers here, but I do suspect two things: that good food is just good for you, and that bad food will never be fully redeemed by the science gods.&lt;span style=""&gt; 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Another way to state this charge is that the ones sent to love offer only unjust judgments or condemnations, and for those who are guilty of self-righteous finger pointing Augustine has good advice.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This objection would totally fail if they were no experiences to relate to it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The crazy “sin police” are out there proclaiming that girls wearing make-up are whores, and guys with long hair worship the devil.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And most informed American’s know that one need not carry a placard to be a bigot.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;Further, were Christians to keep in mind that if they ARE right and Christ did guide them safely past various sins or pitfalls, then they have more to be thankful for and humbled by.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I have met many of these humble Christians that follow Augustine’s map, and “narrow minded” and “self-righteous” are titles that even their critics would not use them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;However, I also think that the picture of health and of Augustine’s healer remind me that some of those who wish to point fingers at the finger pointers do so by one or more of the following : 1) claiming that all religious truth claims (and/or all claims generally) are like witch hunts (that is fictions that kill innocent people), 2) committing the genetic fallacy (something is wrong because of the source it came from – even liars might tell the truth), 3) Deny there is sickness (or health).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Although the list may not be exhaustive, the point is we all need to look at what the person is saying and discover the truth of the matter before we join a possible witch hunt against Christians.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Maybe as we investigate such claims, we might begin by following Augustine’s map so we can love a little more.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In this way even if they ARE self-righteous bigots, we don’t become like them.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt; 
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